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Okay, this is going to have a spoiler about Heroes – you’ve been warned. AVERT YOUR EYES. E! is reporting that the major death in Heroes this season will be Adrian Pasdar aka Nathan Petrelli. AKA WTF, Heroes?
No, no, and no? I’m not having a temper tantrum except, yea I kinda am. I already knew it would be difficult for them to try and show Pasdar and Quinto since they inhabit the same body right now (and it’s been clear they’re favoring Quinto – not that I don’t love me some Zach Quinto) but to fully cut out all of Nathan? Ugh! If they’d wanted to do that they should have just killed him off last season for ultimate dramatic impact.
I don’t think of it so much as Adrian Pasdar being let go from “Heroes” as NBC canceling the show, one actor at a time. – Tim Carvell on Twitter
This is sad for so many reasons – this means no more chances for Claire to connect with (and outdrink) her bio-dad. It means Peter is losing his brother. It means the entire cast is losing one of their favorite cast members. If you look at behind the scenes stuff (which I always do – be it photos or videos) it’s so obvious that Adrian Pasdar is one of the major fixtures of keeping the cast super close. It’s like a family, and now the show is outting the cool uncle! I mean, Pasdar even has a YouTube account where he does videos of the Heroes cast. He really fostered a sensed of family on the set, and he also shared it with the fans. This is a huge loss for us.
As if we needed more sad news – apparently Pasdar had to learn of his character’s fate from his final script. Talk about uber suckage. We feel for ya, man!
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November 3rd, 2009 at 12:08 am
Not to be rude, but they DID kill Nathan last season. It’s not like Sylar is trapped in Nathan’s body, Sylar is convinced he IS Nathan.
There is no way for Claire to out-drink “Nathan” since Sylar has the same ability as Claire. Peter already lost his brother, just no one told him.
Nathan has been gone, except for being fostered in memories that Sylar gleaned off of objects that Nathan owned, and it was clear that they couldn’t have Sylar play Nathan forever. Where is the fun of a TV show if they just get a happily ever after.
I will say that I am upset at the thought of losing Adrian from the cast, and that he was a huge part of the show and the vibe of the show, but we lost Nathan, truly, last season when Claire’s blood wasn’t able to save him.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 am
Christina – Oh, you’re not being rude. We have the commenting function here for a reason, don’t worry. And I recognize you as a VM fan. Maybe I need to be slapped with some sense about this, I’m just so upse that Pasdar will be officially gone. It’s just so sad. I’d rather Sylar stay than Nathan, but I was under the impression we’d see them as this dueling force which would add intrigue to the show. I wonder if they always planned to kill off “Nathan” for good this season or if this is because of other reasons…
I swear I have problems letting go of anything!
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:27 am
If you are saying VM as Veronica Mars I never watched, but I get the upset of Adrian being gone. Having met him I know how infectious his enthusiasm is, and I know that he loved being able to play that dual side and having a bit of darkness. We have lost a lot of great actors though, and some of them for ridiculous reasons. After four seasons it’s going to be hard to let go, and there are a lot of choices that Heroes writers have made over the seasons that made a lot of people just wonder what they were smoking.
I think if you honestly look back over the four years that we’ve dedicated to this series, through all of the insane plot holes, and just ridiculous notions, and forgiven them for – it’s just going to be another thing we get over.
Or we stop watching, but we all knew it was coming, it just sucks the way they handled it. I can’t even believe that Adrian thought it’d go on forever. I mean they sent Sylar to the carnival, and you have Samuel going “No!!” treating him like a bad dog. Nathan, sadly, was on the way out.
The mistake they made was killing him in the first place, but it’s their story. We just get to bitch about it.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 am
Oh, no VM? Hm, I recognize you from somewhere on LJ, but I don’t know from which fandom.
I really did enjoy the flashback aspect to the episode of Heroes tonight – but I’m worried that the only things I *loving* about the new series are the ‘old’ things.
I don’t think I’ll ever stop watching Heroes. I did stop at one point but then I went back and watched everything I’d missed. I can’t quit my super-powered friends.
November 3rd, 2009 at 12:59 am
I have too many fandoms (Alias, Lost, Heroes, BSG… the list goes on) but I am following your Twitter via I want to say the White Collar contest LOL.
I love Rohm, but I think this was a serious underuse of her for a B-Plot that did nothing but make me really doubt HRG. I thought all of his Company involvement, and the Sylar jacking around with him was enough for Sandra to want some space and a divorce, and I felt bad for him. Instead now there is this kernel of info where I go, “Really HRG? Really.” Also nice pattern of blonde partners… *sigh*
I too though, am stuck with Heroes. They’ve killed off almost every single female character I’ve adored and I’m sure they’ll continue with Lydia now as well. Yet I still watch, and I still try to work around their crazy canon points so I can live freely in my little AU worlds.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:09 am
Oh, I’m a big fan of Alias and Lost, too. I’ve never seen BSG but I’m certain I will cave in eventually and watch it. That’s how my love of Firefly started.
Speaking of Whedon-y things…Rohm! I loved seeing her face tonight (loved her as Kate on ATS) but I did not like her role. Sandra really did have enough of a reason to be upset with HRG already. And now we find out this? It just adds a whole new level of betrayal to the entire mess.
Lydia is great. Elle, Nikki, Maya, Charlie, EDEN …the list is long! Meredith! Oh, I really was so sad to see her go. I really love Claire’s entire family history – her adopted parents and bio-parents. I’m sad to see so many chapters closing for exploration. Or at least, what seems like is being closed (cause you never know what they’ll do).
Heroes has some fun AU pairings. I’m not above saying I think unrelated Paire would be so fun.
(Which Twitter? @ThisJessicaRae? Tweet to me and I’ll follow back for sure.)
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 am
I just think it was a throw-away BPlot, that did nothing at all since the character erased it anyway. Of all the things going on for people at that time, picking that arc to dive into was ridiculous in my opinion. Ando sat in that diner ALL day. I would’ve rather have watched him try to continue ordering food and keeping himself from getting kicked out for loitering, than that.
Maya… idk if she was a great character, but the list is very long. Strong female characters that get pushed aside, which happens a lot on that show. Aside from Claire, who isn’t so much strong as she is invincible.
I’m glad they’re closing chapters though, because the path they are taking isn’t shaping up to be what they hoped as far as ratings, and I’d rather have closure than questions.
I’m @lollobrigida47 (Alias nod) and lollobrigida on LJ.
November 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 am
B plot or not, I enjoyed it. I’m a reaaaally nostalgic person. Haha. I should just rewatched heroes season 1 and move on (but where’s the time?). Ando really doesn’t get enough on the show, but I’ve always felt like the show was crammed with too many good characters to ever be fair to most. I mean – yes I have complaints, but I do, at heart, love it.
Maya had potential. I think Monica had some potential, too. It’s sad to see them just disappear. Claire is almost used more as eyecandy than as a role model. I mean, it depends on the episode. I really like her strong bonds with HRG.
Speaking of Alias – I got to briefly interview Michael Vartan once. And I see you’re going to talk to Greg Grunberg? Sooo awesome. Do you get crazy-nervous? *Sheepishly raises hand* I do.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:09 am
Ooh Vartan! He seems really nice, and approachable. I have only had one true freak out moment in all my years of meeting people, and it was just one of those moments where I didn’t really expect to be so blown away by the attractive. I was backstage at a Pete Yorn show, and got up to him and all of the great things about influences and Jeff Buckley went out of my head completely. I literally handed him the CD and said “ohmygodiloveyou.”
I think tomorrow I shouldn’t be too bad. I have a whole day to prepare and I’m trying to focus more on the concert, not the show. Though I’ll have to give him props for the work with Quinto since that clearly is some of the best acting I’ve seen on that show in a while.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 am
Vartan really was a sweetie. Ooooh, Pete Yorn! Love his voice! Have you listened to his “Break Up” album? I didn’t like Scar Jo’s voice in her debut, but she was decent there. …I do not have very much musical knowledge. I’m better with TV, by far.
Greg has always been great. Even back in his days on Felicity
I really miss that show.
November 3rd, 2009 at 2:38 am
FELICITY!!! Oh man, I am gonna meet Rob Benedict in two weeks and I am so half-tempted to just bring all my Felicity DVDs and have him sign them.
The Break-Up Album in my opinion: ScarJo can’t sing. She can talk beautifully though. All she does on that album is talk pretty. I can do that. I would’ve done that if he asked just to spend that much time with him. Of course I still buy it, because Pete carries it vocally, and I can tolerate some pretty talking for Pete.
LOL I imagine people coming to your post and reading all these comments going: “Weirdos.”
November 3rd, 2009 at 3:24 am
ROB BENEDICT! <3333
ScarJo kind of annoys me with everything she does (ever her beauty is too ‘perfect’). For me the Break-Up album is only good because of Yorn.
Well, this is the place where people are allowed to talk about TV and all things related to it, so – pffft. Weirdos are awesome, anyway. Normal people are a snooze fest and a half!
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
I used to be a HUGE fan of Heroes but this show has failed horribly. The writers have unnecessarily killed of characters, both females and African-Americans. And the episode that aired two weeks ago, which had a character killed by having him chained to a truck and dragged, was reminiscent of the racist murder of a black man a few years back in the south, who died the exactly same way. I knew then this show had strong racists and sexists overtones. I will never watch show this again.
November 4th, 2009 at 1:09 am
I don’t think the show is deliberately being racist, but they definitely could step it up in terms of having a prominent African American character who stays alive.
November 4th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Wasn’t a young gay white male killed in the same way many years ago? Sadly I think many people have been killed in this manner so I don’t think it’s too reasonable to claim the writers were being racist.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
My point is the writers who are most likely made up of mostly Caucasian, heterosexual males, are clearly out of touch and lack sensitivity in how their work would be view by the viewing public at large. White and heterosexual people aren’t the only ones viewing Heroes. Many other ethnic races are watching as well.
The writers should have kept that in mind when they decided to kill off ALL the Heroes characters who were of color. So much so, that there are now no people of color on the show, except the new young female black villain (who will most likely be killed of too). AND to write an unnecessary plot, involving a young man who is brutally killed by being chained and dragged by a truck, just like a hate crime incident in real life that involved people who happened to be minorities (gay and black), clearly shows how out of touch these writers.
There must be a lack of female and minority writers on the Heroes writing staff, because there seems to be a lack of sensitivity in regards to how the Heroes characters and the plot lines are written.
What first was an exciting and interesting show has now turned into something dark, hate filled, and unmeaningful. Just like the characters.
November 4th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Broad generalizations in saying that the show and characters are all “dark, hate filled, and unmeaningful” really takes away any merit to your argument.
Heroes has been great in incorporating people of different ethnicities. Hiro and Ando are still around and probably always will be.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:15 am
Yes, in general, the show and “most” of the characters have become “dark, hate filled, unmeaningful”. In the beginning, the show was not like this, and did incorporate different ethnicities. That’s one of the things liked about the show. However, it didn’t last. Characters of color were getting murdered left and right. And not ONE was left standing. And for the very few characters of color that weren’t killed, their roles were suddenly gone. For example, The Haitian and Micah Sanders. I know as minorities, Hiro and Ando are still around, but that’s not saying much when they don’t receive the same amount of screen time as the white characters. Also, my so called “broad generalizations” was mainly referring to “people of color”. When you have that many black characters either killed off or suddenly vanishing, and there are no others left to see, that really stands out. Especially when most of the cast is made up of characters with “light” skin. And we won’t even get into the overall poor writing of the show itself, which had gotten so bad last year that NBC execs fired the two top writers and co-executive producers of the show. Well, it looks like it didn’t help. Because the writing and story lines are still poor. But I’ve heard this may be the last season anyway. Even so, I’m done watching. The show FlashForward is a better example of a diverse cast and cohesive storylines. And that’s the show I’m watching.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:06 am
“People of color”? What decade is this?